New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. The spider looks nice, and the lead wires are quality braided copper. Vote. One Vanatoo speaker houses a 60-watt-per-channel Class D amp that connects to the other speaker via the included cable. Were glad you are enjoying them so much! response. DSP acceleration helps clean up the sound, providing and fairly loud sound that wont get muddy as you turn up the speakers. Anyone who picks up the T0s will be a happy camperperiod! Only thing worth noting here outside of how ridiculously smooth the response looks is that there is a slight 1dB hump centered around 9kHz, and a small sharp 1.5dB dip at 8.5kHz. The Transparent Zero is a sign of where the market is at, only lunatics have proper sized speakers anymore. The Duo speakers take bits from the company's other high-end speakers; for example, they have the same carbon dome tweeter found in B&Ws 700 series and the Continuum cone driver from its 800 series. They give an immediacy of the listening experience, which is quite obvious when coming from the Klipsch, and is more comparable with listening to the earphones. Like to use the Hugo 2 through Zero. Instead, my computer (which I use for critical music listening) can remain connected directly to the DAC while my game consoles are routed through analog inputs and I can even use my phones bluetooth when Im running around cleaning my house, and the fact that these speakers actually come with a dedicated subwoofer port is a gigantic plus to me when it comes to keeping the setup as simple and clean as possible for each mode of audio input that I use. Happy distant customer of Zeros I cannot speak highly enough of these. However, this is not where I spend my time working and I am not about to try to duplicate this. I don't plan on adding a sub to my desk setup at all. If you are looking for a pair of sleek, functional, multifarious, audiophile speakers look no further. I miss nothing about my big O bookshelves speakers. Archived post. Vanatoo went with a clean design on front, covering up most of the business with a removable front grille. Seriously sweet sound! The Vanatoos were properly packaged with a nice compliment of cords, and the remote is fine. The two oddballs standing out are the Pair/Prog button used for pairing with bluetooth and the V-T-B switch which determines the function of the knob at the top of the powered speaker - Volume, Treble, or Bass. I can honestly say the T0s defy logic. I spent many hours poring over various forums and subreddits before finding my way to these speakers (shout-out to r/budgetaudiophile for showing me the light). Their first speaker, Vanatoo One, was a huge success and it was highly praised by the audiophile community. At the time of this review, it has been about a month since receiving these and to be honest its I have zero regrets. The Micca PB42X and JBL 305P's were ruled out because of lack of USB input (is this stupid?). I went through another round of emotionswhy did I get this stupid subwoofer? Ive long wanted to have better (more accurate and less muddy) sound in my living room without having to have a huge complicated stack of a equipment. I have had them for several weeks now and am happily outside my return window. I found the Transparent Zero speakers after looking around a bit on the internet. Sound quality aside, you can tell they have put a lot of thought into these with the little things like the remote, magnetic grills, etc. The Transparent One Encore is an overall upgrade with more features than the described in the text. They are as beautiful today (in every way), as the day I took them out of the box. Stereophile crowns the Transparent One Encore as a "Class B Loudspeaker". For my use the Vanatoo T0 speaker system has fulfilled my acoustic needs beyond expectations with high quality sound, a range of controls options and Bluetooth that should fulfill anyones needs including a quality remote control and 3 year warranty. An active speaker pair is able to deliver stereo sound in a way that popular Wi-Fi speakers, such as a single Sonos Play:5, simply cannot. Certainly no slouch and I have nothing to complain about for the price. Bluetooth capability is a nice bonus. We agree that if you want to use your T0s for watching movies and you want to experience that visceral bass line that is sometimes present in movies then the T0s are greatly enhanced by adding a subwoofer. So depending on set up, your sound experience could vary. I had high expectations for these speakers, based on reviews, and those expectations have been surpassed; the speakers are incredible. They can stream high-res audio (up to 32bit/192kHz) and are designed to compete with the likes of the KEF LS50 Wireless II. Nothing sounds muddy here. I dont care what anyone says. Which for this design is really the win. I was blown away by the fact that the speakers are bi amped with a 48-watt dedicated amplifier for each 4-inch aluminum woofer and each 1-inch soft dome tweeter (who does that for a speaker under $400). However, it's not in my nature to accept one recommendation, I need to create a spreadsheet with 25+ different options ranging from $400 to $2000AUD a pair and that is exactly what I have done. With the help of a delivery company to Bulgaria i placed a preorder and in the beginning of May i received the compact and well organised package. by a healthy margin. I wasnt as picky about the quality of sub that was necessary to match the Vanatoos, so I got the Polk Audio PSW10choosing value over performance in that department. How about a stack of JBLs and maybe an old Kenwood. I didnt realize it then, but this purchase turned me into an audiophile. Ron Cary, IL Gary covered a fair number of things I could check and was very interested in seeing that I had the best experience. I am not going to sit here and spout to you what I think of the treble, mid range, and bass, there are enough people doing that. Theyre easy to set up, sound great, and wont take up too much desk space. I have them paired with a Paradigm Seismic 10. Ideally I want a pair of speakers that can grow with me. I prefer using the Toslink connection. Decades ago, I was an obsessive audiophile painstakingly assembling my system, growing more interested in constantly upgrading equipment, wires, cables, speaker stands and room placement etc rather than just enjoying the music. Thanks B&W. Animal Friendly: This model has a black metal speaker cover that's cat and animal proof. Note you can purchase these online if you search for it. I thought the Zeros would probably work for my desktop sounds. The angled form-factor removes the need for stands in most cases, and helped me fit somewhat larger speakers in a height-limited space. None of them were as intelligent as Trasparent Zero. Im sitting here very content. They do it all and then some! I was pleased with all. Sounds like a flat speaker far away from walls. I have a moderately high end home theatre with excellent electronics and speakers in excellent acoustic environment. Vanatoo Transparent redefine what small affordable loudspeakers can do! I had heard them at an audio show a couple of years back and was impressed with their sound for their small size. I attached a small compact Orb Audio sub that I had and the sound is superb. At least I am not aware of anything better. One can clearly hear the stereo separation. The fact that these are so reasonable and have such a small form factor is mind boggling. Well done fitting all of this into a small package! I did a great deal of research before purchasing and this was my choice. im no audiophile in the pejorative sense of the term as someone who is foolish enough to spend hundreds of dollars on simple RCA type interconnects, but i am fussy about sound quality, and have owned some decent gear. We use cookies to ensure that we give you the best experience on our website. 100% would buy another pair if I needed them and would recommend them to anyone considering desktop speakers in this price range. Up for consideration is a pair of Vanatoo Transparent One powered speakers, in mint condition. I added a reasonably priced Polk PSW111 8 sub which easily plugs right into the Vanatoos and WOW!, this system is absolutely outstanding! However, that doesnt mean its a bad coloration. That is the sound-stage, when near-field, is unbelievably deep and realistic. With the Callisto 2C, Dali enters the active arena with a three-piece system (2 loudspeakers and Sound Hub) designed for stands or placed on a sturdy media credenza. I have had my Vanatoo Transparent Zero speakers for a few months now and, I think, I have spent enough time getting to know them to give a decent review. As you pointed out, thats why we added the subwoofer output. Good luck prying me away from my desk now. Sound quality aside, you can tell they have put a lot of thought into these with the little things like the remote, magnetic grills, etc. They sound great at low volume, but they REALLY seem to open up when you crank em a bitlike theyre just edging for more. So much awesome sound from a great form factor. For those who wonder, like I did, they got recognized right away and properly when connected to my PC running Linux Mint 18.3. The Vanatoos sensed the subwoofer and a second or two later, they got LOUDER and the subwoofer took over the job of pushing out bass that, like voting for Pedro, made all of my wildest dreams come true. Using professional-level monitors for home computers is becoming an increasingly popular setup. I love music. The magnetically attached grills are a nice touch. Now hold the Pair/Prog button while plugging in the power. Want: option to bypass Zero internal DAC. The handle at the back makes moving them simple. Now, I am no audiophile. Some that put the Zero way ahead in versatility, but the need to keep a cheat sheet like this around to access these features means that most of them won't get used. More sophisticated stands might make a further difference, but not at the moderate listening levels implied by working at the computer, with the speakers on the two sides of the monitor. Unfair? The speaker volume level is set between 2 and 3 oclock which leaves me with tons of headroom in the sub that simply is not needed beyond this point but great to know that it is there in the event if I really want to go crazy. These are hands down the best desktop speakers ever considering their size and price to performance ratio. Using the new measurement setup gives much better results. If you want an all-in-one solution, the Vanatoo Transparent Zero would also be a good choice, but doesn't go as deep, but it has more connectivity options and a remote control. First off, Customer Service of this company is 11 out of 10. I highly recommend. Were glad you are enjoying your new T1Es. While we certainly appreciate the inclusion, having a remote or some sort of software to control these functions would be far more ideal than reaching around the speaker. I cant give some fancy audiophile jargon filled rant, but I will say that these things are very accurate and detailed. In a show full of multi-figure-dollared hi-fi systems, these caught my attention so much so that I returned home and ordered a pair the next day.They have punch and clarity and resolution that rival equipment far more expensive. In contrast to the near-field experience with the huge and clearly defined space, if you sit just a couple feet back the experience becomes pointedly less holographic. To be honest I had some unrealistic expectations when it came to the low end frequencies, as my S1000DB paired with the ifi Zen Dac had some really punchy bass even at relatively low volume, which I enjoyed while listening to some soundtracks which the T0s physically cant do (but i am comparing it to a speaker 4 times the size of it to be fair) but what it delivers in the low end is a really tight and precise, and the fact that with the help of the passive radiator the bass shakes my desk giving the impression of a lower extension. While searching for a pair is difficult, it may be worth it. What was wrong?! I searched the net and read and watched many reviews eventually taking the plunge for the Transparency T 0. Truthfully, when I first bought my Zeros, I didnt think they were a big improvement over my old 2.1 Altec Lansing system (with an external Opp headphone AMP/DAC ..used as DAC only) system on my computer. Vanatoo T1E $599 - has both USB and tone controls. based on a phone call with the company made me fine with the potential risks. He suggested that for my needs the set up he recommended was more than enough. by DRHamp. Caveats: -I did not configure them for different inputs. singer performing it live in front of you. 13th Mar 2019 For desktop nearfield use, I have a pair of Vanatoo Transparent Zeros ($360). Ron. Never had them over heat even running for 5 hour events at reasonable volume. Sound is clear. Buy some for kids in college or a hapless relative. Weve never had any decent sound there before but now, thanks to Vanatoo, it sounds absolutely fantastic! And so I called the number on the website. A few years ago, I remembered listening to a review of the Transparent Zeros by Joshua Valour and began researching them further. Whether just listening to music, watching video, or playing games, I couldnt be happier with this purchase! fit somewhat larger speakers in a height-limited space. Tone is good, I do think there may be too much taken out of the midbass in the correction. Paired with and older Infinity 12 inch x 300 Watt sub. In the end, I ended up purchasing the Vanatoo Transparent Zeros. The Encore present a lifelike, exciting and alive sound. Searched Youtube for some audiophile music and BAM I was blown away from the start. Imaging is first rate. I have had my Transparent Zeros for 3 years. The small iso acoustics stands are perfect. I also added a powered subwoofer to enhance the bass. The Bass? Please include what you were doing when this page came up and the Cloudflare Ray ID found at the bottom of this page. Keep doing what you are doing Vanatoo and I wish you continued success. Owned since Christmas 2019. uth be told, the speakers and sub became overkill for my needs, so in retrospect, I would not have purchased the sub. I am not an audiophile at all and will be using them primarily for watching sports/YouTube/netflix, video calls, and occasionally music. Its a design that could be offensive, but we found quite pleasing pitted against the black background. Id probably pair it with a sub at some point down the road if I wasnt in an apartment, but I have other applications for that in the meantime. I have had my T0s for a year. This setup simulates an infinite ground plane that is perfectly reflective. With a clean design and excellent audio quality, its hard to fight against the high price tag. After a lot of internal debate I decided to give the Transparent Zero a shot and Ive been happy with it and have no regrets (especially for the size there arent many competitors). Why do my audioengine A2 speakers sound better than my kanto YU4? The Transparent Zeros. by Mike. There are bass, treble and volume, each to tune the speakers to your tastes. Thanks! I connected the Zeros to my ELAC 1010 subwoofer. I am using the analog input and the USB input with great results. In an office environment, the blue light is a reminder that the speakers are on. I had to import them from USA to Europe so the price doubled so I d wish you set up a european distribution network. As the usual conferences and meetings I had were changed from in-person to virtual, I needed computer speakers that had good intelligibility. Under the top foam piece are the speakers, firmly nestled in form fitting cutouts in the foam insert, each speaker was double wrapped, first in a clear plastic bag, then in a thicker white protective bag. I use the Vanatoo Zero speaker to run audio for my TV this is the best value I have found for the dollar in any single piece of audio equipment. Michael M. A heavy duty exterior brown cardboard box, inside the outer box was a white cardboard box with a carrying handle, and the Vanatoo logo, contents identification and serial number of the contents placed on the outside of the white box. For those of us who are tired of all the audio components, cables, wires, settings, and cost of typical stereo systems, this is as good and simple as it gets. One speaker houses an amp which is shared between all four drivers. Buy some for the shop, computer desk, or kitchen. Feature wise, I appreciate the remote and the several options for connectivity (Bluetooth is very welcome!). Outstanding speakers! Have Chord Hugo 2 for use with audiophile headphones. Good fit for my needs and expectations A re-awakened appreciation of all types of music. The amount of bass I get out of these little speakers is amazing. He has since touched on other options in the space but note then are all slightly more expensive and typically not the sweet spot for features. These also really seem to love it when you give them the beans. The tone controls are basic bass and treble with the "mid buttons" acting as a reset to flat function. Best-in-class compact speaker for price and versatility. These speakers are used everyday and I cant imagine not having my Vanatoo speakers providing me with soooooo much audio happiness. active speaker on the right or want automatic input detection (potentially an issue when used with a PC setup/multiple computers, etc). I am very pleased with my Transparent Zero speakers and tell evey one about them. Cons: You do need power and you need to connect the speakers with cable, however, as stated above, Im willing to put up with these minor issues for better sound quality while on the road. The MMGs were eventually replaced with Elac tower speakers. I opt to keep the sub now that I have it because I do get the added pleasure of getting more highs out of my t0s. My only complaint is that the various adjustments are rather byzantine in their complexity. Superb sound and connectivity options at an unbelievable price. Although I do not consider myself an audiophile,just someone who enjoys quality sound reproduction. Whether its well-made? I can pretty much sum up this speaker like this.. You can get the $10k Sound from this $800 combo, and you will have the ultimate desktop speaker.. All my HD FLAC files sent through the USB cable sound amazing.. Rushs Tom Sawyer kicks you in the chest, Michael Jacksons Billy Jean made my dishes danced, Jesse Cooks Cancion Triste sweet yet sad guitars/cello will draw tears from your heart. Really impressed with the T0s! If youre debating, stop. here, these are as tight and clean as can be. Damn satisfied! The speakers themselves are perfect for a desk setup, providing great sound and are jam packed with features. I will certainly need to make a change to the system being used with the TV, the day of using the T0s connected to the TV, even without a strong phantom center channel, killed the Sonos Playbase listening experience. And the stands are magical and I got a kick out of the video you did to show how clean the sound gets when the speakers are on the stand. The bottom pink line is the speaker without the reflection speaker. When they, I purchased on Amazon and I had a friend who was in NYC bring me a set in his luggage. Yes, she is right there in front of me. Both these speakers I felt were a cut above most speaker systems for nearfield use. Amazing for the small size! Theyre pretty hefty small units and connecting them is simple (I used USB). Focal Evo 65 alpha) gdzie wielko jest znacznie mniejsza. Inside the white carton was form fitting foam protection, with cutouts on top of the foam right under the lid of the white carton for holding a plethora of interface cables, the quick start guide, a small Allen wrench to remove the screws securing the handle on each speaker (so as to allow moving the handle to the opposite side if desired for mounting/desktop usage with the front of the speaker aimed directly at the listener). Bill Q. As a 1.0 (single speaker) take-along system the T0 is also amazing. Well done Vanatoo, you have created a masterpiece. These will not replace my large speakers in the living room, but cost only 1/10 as much! The "Kickstand" you see propping up the speaker can be moved from one side of the speaker to the other or removed completely with an included allen wrench. I am giving these speakers every fair chance possible by using them in a small room with proper sound treatment, positioning, and mounting, just like studio monitors. Every product is carefully selected by our editors. My first experience with Vanatoo was the purchase of their Transparent Zero speakers, that Ive been using on my computer desktop. The speakers are elegant and the sound blew me away: Rich, crisp room filling distinct and transporting. With the Zero, Vanatoo chose to biamp for great justice and implement an insano 8th order 48dB/octave active crossover slope at a very low 2200Hz. They put out amazing sound for such a small footprint. A heavy duty exterior brown cardboard box, inside the outer box was a white cardboard box with a carrying handle, and the Vanatoo logo, contents identification and serial number of the contents placed on the outside of the white box. If you want a pair of speakers to mainly listen on, while dabbling in a little audio work, then these ones may be the right ones for you. Again the sound is stunning. Amazing for the small size! 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